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« 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 11:02:59 »
懒得翻也翻不好 看原文吧:

Asmodai in Judaism
In Judaism Asmodai appears in the Book of Tobit and the Talmud.

In the Book of Tobit Asmodai falls in love with Sarah, daughter of Rachel, and kills her husband each time she gets married; in this way, he killed seven men on their wedding night, impeding the consummation of the sexual act. After this, Sarah becomes engaged to Tobias, a young man, who, menaced by the demon, receives the aid of the angel Raphael. Raphael teaches Tobias how to deal with the demon, making him catch a fish and put its heart and liver on lit coals, which produces a vapour that makes Asmodai flee to Egypt, where Raphael binds him. More about the demon's fate in this history is unknown, but here he is presented as feeling carnal desire as well as having evil behaviour.

In the Talmud Asmodai seems not to be the evil creature he is in other books. There are, besides, some legends concerning Asmodai and King Solomon. One of them tells that King Solomon tricked the demon and obliged him to collaborate in building the temple of Jerusalem, and in another legend Asmodai changed place for some years with King Solomon. There is, however, another legend, saying that Asmodai is the king of all demons, comparable to Satan, and married Lilith after she left Adam.

 

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« 回帖 #1 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 11:06:28 »
老大的老婆叫Lilith是亚当的前妻(原名eve,这个和eva有什么关系?)
被亚当抛弃后受到老大的无比关爱 嗯 :lol:
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« 回帖 #2 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 11:36:11 »
eve就是夏娃,eva也是夏娃……嗯,日本人笨,拼错了……
不过Lilith果真原名eve么?

另,DND的PS是另外的一个世界,本质来说跟圣经里的故事是没有任何关系的……
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« 回帖 #3 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 11:42:33 »
呃 是阿 不过这个人物原形取自于圣经嘛

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« 回帖 #4 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:01:13 »
Lilith as Adam's first wife
The first clear reference to Lilith as the first wife of Adam is in an anonymous medieval work called The Alphabet of Ben-Sira. In it, Lilith is described as refusing to assume a subservient role to Adam during sexual intercourse and eventually deserted Adam. Lilith then went on to mate with Asmodai and various other demons she found beside the Red Sea, creating countless lilin. Adam urged God to bring Lilith back, so three angels were despatched after her. When the angels, Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, made threats to kill one hundred of Lilith's demonic children for each day she stayed away, she countered that she would prey eternally upon the descendants of Adam and Eve, who could be saved only by invoking the names of the three angels, and did not return to Adam.

This story has similarities with the original Mesopotamian myth, where Lilith killed children, and so the practice of protecting children by placing Lilith amulets around their necks with the names of the three angels became a custom of many Jewish communities in medieval times.

This legend was mistakenly included in an English language book of rabbinic works (the author seemingly assumed that any ancient book read in the Jewish community must have been a rabbinic work). However, contrary to popular belief, the The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is not a Jewish religious text; rather, it is a collection of perverse stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud. Modern historians are unsure of its original purpose, although it may have been a collection of risqué folk-tales, a refutation of Christians, Karaites or other separatist movement, or simply an anti-Jewish satire

 希腊神话里也有类似版本:
Lilith in World myths
Various versions of the Lilith myth exist; Hieronymus associated Lilith with the mythical Greek Lamia, a Libyan queen who mated with Zeus. After Zeus abandoned Lamia, Hera stole Lamia's children, and Lamia took revenge by stealing other women's children.

The original name in Sumerian was "Lilitu", and the transliteration from the Hebrew "לילית" may be as "Lilith," "Lillith," or "Lilit".

圣经记载:
However, some interpret the passage in Genesis 1:27 — "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" — before describing a mate being made of Adam's rib and being called Eve in Genesis 2:22, to mean that Adam had a wife before Eve, and that this could have been Lilith. However, this divergence is often explained as a careless weaving together of two discrete biblical creation myths, as the Bible describes man being created in both Genesis 1:26 and 2:27.

Adam had a wife before Eve 嗯

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« 回帖 #5 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:01:18 »
老外的书乱的可以,每个教派有每个教派对于各个宗教人物的解释,还有一大堆小教派以及支派什么的。基本上阿斯莫蒂这种人物就跟中国的太上老君玉皇大帝差不多,正经的宗教用书可能用到,诗歌散文可能用到,YY小说可能用到,什么“三天速成魔法”之类的杂书也可能用到……同理还有拜尔泽布,墨菲斯托之类的……

至于Lilith……感觉比较pagan一点的书就会用到,当然最近这个家伙的流行还是因为在日漫里的大量使用……

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« 回帖 #6 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:09:43 »
呃如此看了和eve是2个人 eve似乎是Lilith的替代品......

并且Lilith和adam的女儿Lilin
据说就是Succubus一族的原形

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« 回帖 #7 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:11:48 »
中文似乎翻成女怪吧
感觉就是被主流社会抛弃的可怜人......

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« 回帖 #8 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:22:58 »
据EVA说…………

Lilin才是正常的人类……

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« 回帖 #9 于: 2004-06-02, 周三 12:41:23 »
呃 所以才要补完么?
我eva果然没看懂阿........